business

Verdict

Submitted 5/6/2026, 7:29:26 AM · Completed 5/6/2026, 6:01:42 PM

6.5
pivot
The idea

Can we talk about openclaw/hermes/cowork?

Pain point
MSPs struggle to balance supporting clients' AI adoption while managing risks from insecure, unregulated tools like OpenClaw and Hermes.
Who has this problem
MSPs managing clients' AI tool deployments
Contradiction (TRIZ)
Want to empower clients with AI tools but face risks from insecure, unregulated tools that could compromise data security
Ideal final result
Clients use AI tools that are secure, governed, and aligned with enterprise standards without compromising innovation
Suggested solution
Implement a governance framework that requires SOC2 certification for AI tools, mandates liability waivers, and offers managed services for secure AI integration using Microsoft Copilot as a controlled alternative
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I haven't seen much discussion around this subject, perhaps not a lot of your clients are 'here' yet. I genuinely don't know what the fuck to do. I'm a smaller MSP, I have good relationships with clients, and I always want to support them. I've started writing up an advisory and liability waiver in advanced on agentic AI. I've had one client want request a hermes agent access to all email inboxes in their entra tenant. The user created an entra app, created a certificate secret, assigned delegate permissions and then tried to approve (this is when we got an alert, as their admin). This person got this far down this rabbit hole before we got to intervene. Which is fine, there's no harm but a user following AI instructions to do all of this, which would take them at least an hour, just to get to the end and have us say "what the fuck are you thinking" is just shitty, for every one involved. I have another client that is going to ask about OpenClaw. I mean it makes total sense, these tools 'promise' that they're solving a tonne of problems. If you've played with any of these tools, you'd know, I know , they are extremely insecure black boxes. But we have a duty as their provider to empower our clients to succeed, but at the same time, these tools are in practice, similar to malware. Their inherent nature is to have maximum permissions, so they can do anything™ an employee can. I have another client that has one trusted user using claude cowork, I find this one the most bearable, as if it's not got admin permissions, it can't really fuck up the computer too much.. and Anthropic has really nice published articles about what it means to use agentic AI. The two alternative's above are opensource, who do you blame when it fucks up? These clients have a board of directors, multiple stakeholders, yet some users think they should have the right to deploy these agents across their network? The issue arises when the clients themselves have no idea about this, they don't understand semantic reasoning, versus a structured script/workflow. Having to remind them that their cyber insurance policy is not likely to pay out if this is breached (policies aren't even updated for this shit yet!). But when you tell a client "No, here's a million reasons this is a bad idea" they just think you're being uncooperative, unhelpful, and frankly a shitty provider. I know a few of you will beat your chest and say "Just tell the clients no or have them sign a waiver" but for none of us here, is it ever that simple. An alternative is to say to a client, use power automate, or let's get you setup in copilot, but to do this requires hand-holding and training, and I don't know about you guys, but I really don't have that much time to do this for every single client, nor would I even know how to charge for it to justify that time. Just looking to start a discussion around this, as it seems to be picking up steam and seems to be extremely problematic.
TRIZ inventive level: 3/5· Principles: parameter changes, mechanical interaction
Synthesis verdict
**Pivot**: The idea of creating a solution to help MSPs guide clients in safely adopting agentic AI tools has potential, but it requires significant adjustments to mitigate the high security risks and scalability challenges. The market demand is clear, and MSPs are willing to pay for a trusted advisory service that reduces their liability exposure. However, the venture's viability is threatened by the inability to mitigate agentic AI's inherent security risks while scaling client support. To pivot, the focus should be on developing a branded, billable, and legally defensible framework that prioritizes security and compliance.

Strengths

  • - Clear market demand from MSPs serving SMBs and mid-market clients
  • - Potential for high-value advisory services with tiered pricing
  • - Opportunity to provide a standardized, legally defensible client-facing protocol

Weaknesses

  • - High security risks inherent to agentic AI tools
  • - Scalability challenges due to resource-intensive hand-holding and training
  • - Regulatory uncertainty around cyber insurance payouts for AI-related breaches

Best angle

Develop a scalable, branded, and legally vetted governance infrastructure that prioritizes security and compliance, enabling MSPs to safely say 'yes' to AI innovation without saying 'yes' to liability.

Panel verdicts

Competition

no model

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Viability

meta/llama-4-maverick-17b-128e-instruct

8.0

“A solo or 2-person team can build a viable v1 solution within 4-12 weeks by focusing on a specific aspect of guiding MSP clients in safely adopting agentic AI tools.”

The idea revolves around creating a solution to help MSPs guide clients in safely adopting agentic AI tools, addressing the challenges of security, compliance, and education. A solo or 2-person team can potentially build a v1 in 4-12 weeks if they focus on a specific aspect, such as developing a comprehensive advisory and liability waiver template or creating a training module for safer AI adoption. The technical complexity lies in understanding the nuances of agentic AI tools and their implications on security and compliance. However, the core challenge is not technical but rather educational and advisory. The team can leverage existing knowledge about AI tools and security best practices to develop their solution. A significant hurdle will be condensing complex information into actionable advice for clients. The solution's success hinges on its ability to balance the need for security with the clients' desire for innovation. Charging for the service and justifying the time spent will also be crucial. Overall, while there are challenges, a well-focused effort by a small team can yield a viable v1 within the given timeframe.

Market

qwen/qwen3-next-80b-a3b-instruct

8.0

“MSPs don't need more warnings - they need a branded, billable, legally defensible framework to safely say 'yes' to AI without saying 'yes' to liability.”

There is a clear, urgent, and growing demand from MSPs serving SMBs and mid-market clients who are being pressured by end-users to deploy unvetted agentic AI tools - tools that operate as high-risk, permission-granting black boxes with no audit trail, no accountability, and no insurance coverage. These clients are not malicious; they're misled by marketing claims and lack technical literacy. The MSP's pain point is real: they're caught between client expectations ('empowerment') and legal/operational liability. The market is underserved because most MSPs lack frameworks to diplomatically block dangerous AI deployments while still appearing supportive. This isn't about selling a product - it's about selling a trusted advisory service: a standardized, legally defensible, client-facing 'Agentic AI Risk Assessment & Governance Protocol' that includes waiver templates, permission audit checklists, approved alternatives (like Copilot or Power Automate), and insurance compliance guidance. The audience is not niche - it's every MSP with 50+ clients, especially those in regulated industries (healthcare, finance, legal). These MSPs have budget: they already pay for EDR, MFA, and SOC 2 compliance. They'll pay for a turnkey solution that reduces their liability exposure and lets them say 'yes' to innovation without saying 'yes' to disaster. The unmet need isn't education - it's scalable, branded, legally vetted governance infrastructure.

Risk

nvidia/llama-3.3-nemotron-super-49b-v1

2.0

“Inability to mitigate agentic AI's inherent security risks while scaling client support will likely bankrupt the MSP within a year.”

The venture's viability is severely threatened by the inherent security risks of agentic AI tools, which pose a direct liability to the MSP. Clients' lack of understanding and potential blame-shifting to the MSP in case of breaches (despite waivers) exacerbate the risk. Regulatory uncertainty around cyber insurance payouts for AI-related breaches further complicates the MSP's position. The resource-intensive requirement for hand-holding and training to offer safer alternatives (like Power Automate or Copilot) without a clear monetization strategy undermines scalability. Given these factors, the venture is highly likely to fail within 6-12 months due to a combination of platform risk, regulatory ambiguity, and unsustainable operational demands.

Monetization

mistralai/mistral-nemotron(fallback #1)

7.0

“MSPs can monetize their expertise in mitigating AI risks by providing structured, high-value advisory services.”

The idea highlights a critical and emerging market need for MSPs to address the risks and governance of agentic AI within client environments. The revenue model could involve offering a premium advisory service with tiered pricing based on the complexity of the client's environment (e.g., $500/month for basic advisory, $1,500/month for full governance and monitoring). Conversion paths could include upselling existing clients during security reviews or offering a free initial consultation to new prospects. Unit economics should account for the time spent on advisory, waiver drafting, and monitoring, with a gross margin target of 60-70%. The key insight is that MSPs can monetize their expertise in mitigating AI risks by providing structured, high-value advisory services.

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